Re: gEDA-dev: Last call for input on SOW for Linux Fund....

["Svenn Are Bjerkem" <svenn_dot_bjerkem-at-NOSPAMgooglemail_dot_com>]

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Dan McMahill <dan@mcmahill.net> wrote:

> I guess I haven't found the fog to be any thicker or clearer than any
> number of programming languages.  But then again, I had some Verilog-HDL
> experience prior to Verilog-A and Verilog-AMS.  I won't argue that you
> currently have to spend the money though.  The time really wasn't bad.
> Now if you don't have access to the tools and you're not writing the
> tools, then yeah the book isn't that useful.  But then again a book on
> perl, ruby, samba, or apache would also be fairly useless if you didn't
> actually have one of those tools at hand to work with.

Why can't some funding flow into some of the tools available to make
that -A/MS happen?
Icarus, GHDL, freehdl, ngspice and gnucap are all tools that are in
use, but none of them really support the concept of A/MS (yet) in the
Verilog/VHDL-AMS concept. Until that happens lots of money has to be
spent to be able to do "real" AMS

>
> Perhaps the other issue is that those who do a lot with Verilog-A or
> Verilog-AMS are generally not in a position to freely discuss what
> exactly it was they did with it or and specifics of how they did what
> they did.

Ken Kundert knows what he is talking about and he offers enough
information on http://www.designers-guide.org/index.html for anybody
interested in AMS to get up to date on the advantages of doing things
the AMS way.

Until some more momentum is gained, either closed-source crippled
evaluations or $s has to be used. Funding ($) is a nice way of making
things happen :-)

-- 
Svenn


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